Show Summary

Leslie & Laura tackle imposter syndrome, start marriage depth coaching with Krayna, and invite every business owner, founder, entrepreneur, and their significant others to make their relationships awesome.

A bit more about Krayna. She is a Depth Coach, not a licensed therapist or counselor. She says about her sessions:

I’m most compelled by deeply listening and by investigating the assumptions that we take for granted to be true, and really looking into  that.  We look at what is commonly experienced as resisting or trying to alter What Is, what that does within one’s experience (suffering!), and what life is without the idea that something else (or better or different) should/could be happening.  We’re looking into the truth of the matter, and seeing how that helps dissolve knots of suffering.

Here’s a link to Krayna’s blog. If you are in Bend, go see her. Really. Just go.

Here is the book that elaborates the roots of Krayna’s method of inquiry: Loving What Is: Four Questions That Can Change Your Life (affiliate link).

People have asked about the chore checklists that Laura made, that are currently rocking our world. Those will get put up in downloadable form when we publish episode 2.

After Krayna listened to Episode 1, she emailed us and wanted us to point out something about our session with her. She said:

One thing you didn’t say, which is vitally important: you are both sincere and willing in the coaching process with me.  I deeply appreciate (and accept) the very moving and lovely things you shared about your experience with me.  That’s true enough.  And, I can tell you right now, your qualities of sincerity and willingness are the keys to your sense of something shifting and happening that you feel good about!  I think your audience would benefit from knowing this.

If there’s anything you want more notes on, let us know in the comments!

Posted by Leslie Camacho


  1. Absolutely beautiful, you guys! Thanks for being willing to share your vulnerable journey. I love the emphasis on process. I can’t wait to hear what you learn next. <3


    1. Thanks Molly! And hooray for being our first commenter ever! You should win a prize for that. Hmm….


  2. Wonderful podcast–I am so very proud of you to have gotten to this point in your journey together. It will only get better from here with the kind wisdom you are sharing. Love you both so much!

    (Dang, I wanted to be the first commenter!)


    1. Thanks so much Gail! You and Earl inspire us in our marriage and, well, life.

      Nobody has rated or reviewed us in iTunes yet so you still have a chance to be 1st there! (iTunes link to the Marriage Startup Podcast)


  3. great show guys. Love the start and the giggles. great music. cant wait to hear what you do next


    1. Thanks for the kind words Adrienne, we really appreciate it!


  4. Betty in Munich July 16, 2014 at 12:35 pm

    Just a few days ago Christof was talking about how he believes we both have an illusion of each other that perhaps is not reality….it gave us a lot to talk about! I can’t believe that literally two days later, you do a podcast on this very subject! xo


    1. It’s Camacho telepathy! And thanks for listening!


  5. I’m so glad I listened to this and can’t wait to listen again with Keoni. I loved the, “Clients from Hell!” So true! I’m going away from this episode with so much! Laura you are so nurturing. Pointing out that you are unlearning the habits of being that gatekeeper of the stress…so helpful. Love you two!


    1. Hi Tara,

      Thank you so so so much for the kind words. Please let us know what Keoni thinks!


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